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There is going to be many people protesting if the English Queen visits the Republic of Ireland. Bad timing, we are all paying for her security and the vast majority do not want her here.
For many Irish people, the Queen of England does not just represent the oppression of the Irish by the British, she and her family were the problem. All the crimes in Ireland they authorized and for their benefit.
The problem is we Irish never invited any Queen here.
We Irish have no problem with the English or British people, they are welcome. It is their Royal family who we have no time for, many Irish people detest them. It is not just the Irish, I know many English and British have no time for the Windsors, many of them want us to protest at the visit.
It was not the ordinary English who made money out of the brutal oppression in Ireland and empire, but the Windsors always did.
English people are welcome, but the one who calls herself Queen will never be made welcome by many if not most Irish.
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Good move by this Pub in Dublin, more should follow, it is the truth of how we feel.


It has two very large pictures of the Queen and says: "She and her family are all officially barred from this pub as long as the British occupy one inch of this island they will never be welcome in Ireland."
If the Queen took her crown off and came in as an ordinary person she would be welcome for a pint of Guinness... as the head of state she is not and won't be for as long as I am alive”
John Stokes Pub Owner
Mr Stokes said: "I just thought just in case she wanted to come in I would save her the embarrassment of being refused entry at the door and let her know in advance she wouldn't be welcome."

Mr Stokes, who spent 500 euro (£433) on the banner, said he has been surprised by the reaction it has had.
"It was meant to be a bit of a joke, a bit of craic.
"But at the same time there is a serious message in it that there are people who object to a British Queen visiting Ireland," he added.
"My personal objection is three-fold.
'Freedom of speech'
"Firstly the economics of it all, we can't afford to be spending 15-20m euro (£13-17m) on security, especially when we are struggling here.
"Also the banner is a bit of tongue-in-cheek, but I know plenty of people coming from the political angle that her visiting is not right," he continued.
"As the head of the British forces who occupy our island, specifically the six-counties, against the will of the people, she is not welcome.

"You have to remember this is the same Queen that pinned medals on the paratroopers that were in Derry on Bloody Sunday and I am disgusted by that."

Mr Stokes, who is the father of Celtic striker Anthony Stokes, said his son was in no way connected to the banner.
Anthony Stokes Anthony Stokes is a striker for Celtic Football Club in Glasgow
"He had no idea I was planning on putting this up, it's my bar, I own it and I run it," he said.

Mr Stokes said he didn't feel the banner would make things worse for his son, Anthony.
Anthony Stokes plays for one of the two biggest football clubs in Scotland and more importantly Glasgow.
The rivalry between the two clubs and their fans has spilled over into sectarian violence and trouble in the past.
The Old Firm games are often so provocative many pubs in North and in the Republic won't screen them.



A DUBLIN LANDLORD and father of a player for Celtic FC may be forced by Gardaí to remove a banner from outside his pub, proclaiming that the Queen is barred from visiting it when she arrives in Ireland next May.

John Stokes, owner of the Players’ Lounge in Dublin’s Fairview, erected a 40-foot banner on Friday evening insisting that “she [the Queen] and all her family are officially barred from this pub.”

The banner continued to explain that the Royal family would not be welcome “as long as the British occupy an inch of this island”.

Stokes – the father of Celtic and Republic of Ireland player Anthony Stokes, 22 – told yesterday’s Liveline, however, that he was facing a Garda order to remove the banner, with officers saying the banner ‘incited hatred’.

The Sun quotes a Garda sources as indicating that if “the banner is still up next week, then we will draw the judge’s attention to it” when Stokes returns to court to secure his liquor licence for the bar next week.

The banner was not meant as a personal insult, he added, saying it had merely been displayed to stop the Queen from the embarrassment of being turned away if she happened to show up at his bar, which he said was well-known.

There is precedent for Stokes to be forced to remove the banner: as the Irish Examiner explains, builder Mick Wallace – who has since become a TD – was made to remove a banner opposing the war in Iraq from one of his building sites.

On that occasion, Gardaí said the statement was a political one, and that such banners did not enjoy the same freedoms given to more straightforward advertising.
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No queen is going to be welcome here, she will never in her lifetime feel free to walk the streets of Ireland.
Irish people are not just going to forget the terror our ancestors had to put up from the foreign Crown. Why should we just forget that all the terror was done in her name. The hatred and religious divisions in Ireland were purposely created by that foreign Crown, just so she and her family could get even more stinking rich.

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