St Finian Irish saint. St Finnian's day Scotland Pope visit

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Just watching back to the Pope's visit to Britain.
When he was in Scotland and it seems getting a very warm welcome.
The Pope arrived in Britain - September 16 2010

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The Roman Catholic's and others are celebrating St Finian's day in Scotland in style, Pipers and marching bands, I guess the extra celebrations of St Finian the Irish saint, was to coincide with the Pope's visit.

The Pope referred to the distinct Scottish culture and the ancient Christian roots of Scotland.
Somewhat predictably and sadly these reference were made without mention of the Irish who inspired it all.
I do understand the Pope's lack of credit to Ireland, the British establishment would not have allowed the Pope to give the Irish credit for their supposed ancient British history.

Remember that dimwit Greek philip husband of German liz, when he was visting Trinity. When he jokingly told the supposed masters of Trinity that the Book of Kells was really made in Scotland. He meant it, because that is typical of the little england mentality, their arrogance and ignorance of their own history, not just of Irish and Ireland.

Not one of the supposed historians corrected or tried to inform the ignorant and arrogant old inbred European mainland fool.

They could have replied to Greek phil, in a similar intentional joke request to return the stone of Scone to Ireland. Now that would really have shocked the old fool into googling out some of his ridiculously pompous arrogance.

Someone should have at least put the arrogant old twit in his place, down a fair few pegs.
The Book of Kells was without question produced by Irish monks.

Where Irish monks produced the book of Kells, one of many ancient Irish works of art, wonders of the worlds ancient cultures, at least a thousand years before the invented supposed British race.
British was indeed a franchise invented for European crime dynasties to wipe over real and credible cultures.

The book of Kells could have been produced in any number of Irish Monasteries, that Irish monks had founded and built across Ireland, and then beyond into almost every part of Britain and much of Europe.

All we know for certain is that Irish monks, Irish culture is the source. And Kells Monastery held the book safe for hundreds of years. According to another great Irish book, the Annals of Ulster, Kells had the book in safe keeping from at least 1007 AD.

As the Scots celebrate St Finian's day, and St Finian as their saint. I recall our friend Finn's writing, of how so many notable things considered Scottish, are actually of Irish origin and cultural root.
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The Irish had huge impact on every aspect of now supposed 'British' culture.
In Britain, until very recently the Irish were written out of anything considered notable history.
The supposed English royals (usually German) would have advised as unwise and unacceptable any highlighting of the Irish culture and nation, as being (in historical fact) far more ancient than any British or even England and English.
I posted a reference to a documentary that showed how the Irish Celts created Britain.

St. Finian the Irish saint from Ireland.
Irish abbot, a disciple of Sts. Colman and Mochae also called Winin. He was born in Strangford, Lough, Ulster, in Ireland, a member of a royal family. Studying under Sts. Colman and Mochae, he became a monk in Strathclyde and was ordained in Rome. Returning to Ulster, Finian founded several monasteries, becoming abbot of Moville, in County Down, Ireland. He became embroiled with St. Columba, a student, over a copy of St. Jerome’s Psalter, and St. Columba had to surrender that copy to Finian. He also founded Holywood and Dumfries in Scotland. Finian was known for miracles, including moving a river.

Saint Finian
Facts and information about Saint Finian
The following provides fast and concise facts and information:
Saint Finnian or Saint Uinniau of Moville (495 - 589), was a Christian missionary who became a legendary figure in medieval Ireland. He should not to be confused with his namesake Finnian of Clonard. Traditional scholarship has it that he was a descendant of Fiatach the Fair and born in Ulster, however this has been questioned lately by the American Celticist Thomas Owen Clancy. He apparently studied under Colman of Dromore and Mochae of Noendrum, and subsequently at Candida Casa (Whithorn), whence he proceeded to Rome, returning to Ireland in 540 with an integral copy of St. Jerome's Vulgate. He was the founder of a famous school of Druim Fionn at about this time. Legend has it that he tried to convert Tuan mac Cairill, a mythical figure who was the last survivor of the Partholonian race, and that while doing so had the famous Scéal Tuáin maic Cairell recounted to him. This is a text about takings of Ireland, a source for the famous Lebor Gabála Érenn.

Finnian's most distinguished pupil at Moville was Columba. Tradition has it that Columba's surreptitious copying of a psalter led eventually to his exile on Iona. What remains of the copy, together with the casket that contains it, is now in the National Museum of Ireland. It is known as the Cathach or Battler, and was to be carried by the O'Donnells in battle. The inner case was made by Cathbar O'Donnell in 1084, but the outer is fourteenth century work.

Finnian wrote a rule for his monks, also a penitential code, the canons of which were published by Wasserschleben in 1851.
* Saint Finnian of Moville's feast-day as it stands is the 10th of September.

St Columba and St Finnian
Abbot of Iona, b. at Garten, County Donegal, Ireland, 7 December, 521; d. 9 June, 597. He belonged to the Clan O'Donnell, and was of royal descent. His father's name was Fedhlimdh and that of his mother Eithne. On his father's side he was great-great-grandson of Niall of the Nine Hostages, an Irish king of the fourth century. His baptismal name was Colum, which signifies a dove, hence the latinized form Columba. It assumes another form in Colum-cille, the suffix meaning "of the Churches". He was baptized at Tulach-Dubhglaise, now Temple-Douglas, by a priest named Cruithnechan, who afterwards became his tutor or foster-father. When sufficiently advanced in letters he entered the monastic school of Moville under St. Finnian who had studied at St. Ninian's "Magnum Monasterium" on the shores of Galloway. Columba at Moville monastic life and received the diaconate. In the same place his sanctity first manifested itself by miracles. By his prayers, tradition says, he converted water into wine for the Holy Sacrifice (Adam., II, i). Having completed his training at Moville, he travelled southwards into Leinster, where he became a pupil of an aged bard named Gemman. On leaving him, Columba entered the monastery of Clonard, governed at that time by Finnian, a remarkable, like his namesake of Moville, for sanctity and learning. Here he imbibed the traditions of the Welsh Church, for Finnian had been trained in the schools of St. David. Here also he became one those twelve Clonard disciples known in subsequent history as the Twelve Apostles of Ireland. About this same time he was promoted to the priesthood by Bishop Etchen of Clonfad. The story that St. Finnian wished Columba to be consecrated bishop, but through a mistake only priest's orders were conferred, is regarded by competent authorities as the invention of a later age (Reeves, Adam., 226).

Another preceptor of Columba was St. Mobhi, whose monastery at Glasnevin was frequented by such famous men as St. Canice, St. Comgall, and St. Ciaran. A pestilence which devastated Ireland in 544 caused the dispersion of Mobhi's disciples, and Columba returned to Ulster, the land of his kindred. The following years were marked by the foundation of several important monasteries, Derry, Durrow, and Kells. Derry and Durrow were always specially dear to Columba. While at Derry it is said that he planned a pilgrimage to Rome and Jerusalem, but did not proceed farther than Tours. Thence he brought a copy of those gospels that had lain on the bosom of St. Martin for the space of 100 years. This relic was deposited in Derry (Skene, Celtic Scotland, II, 483). Columba left Ireland and passed over into Scotland in 563. The motives for this migration have been frequently discussed. Bede simply says: "Venit de Hibernia . . . praedicaturus verbum Dei" (H. E., III, iv); Adarnnan: "pro Christo perigrinari volens enavigavit" (Praef., II). Later writers state that his departure was due to the fact that he had induced the clan Neill to rise and engage in battle against King Diarmait at Cooldrevny in 561. The reasons alleged for this action of Columba are: (1) The king's violation of the right of sanctuary belonging to Columba's person as a monk on the occasion of the murder of Prince Curnan, the saint's kinsman; (2) Diarmait's adverse judgment concerning the copy Columba had secretly made of St. Finnian's psalter. Columba is said to have supported by his prayers the men of the North who were fighting while Finnian did the same for Diarmait's men. The latter were defeated with a loss of three thousand. Columba's conscience smote him, and he had recourse to his confessor, St. Molaise, who imposed this severe penance: to leave Ireland and preach the Gospel so as to gain as many souls to Christ as lives lost at Cooldrevny, and never more to look upon his native land. Some writers hold that these are legends invented by the bards and romancers of a later age, because there is no mention of them by the earliest authorities (O'Hanlon, Lives of the Ir. Saints, VI, 353). Cardinal Moran accepts no other motive than that assigned by Adamnan, "a desire to carry the Gospel to a pagan nation and to win souls to God". (Lives of Irish Saints in grate britain, 67). Archbishop Healy, on the contrary, considers that the saint did incite to battle, and exclaims: "O felix culpa . . . which produced so much good both for Erin and Alba (Schools and Scholars, 311).

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