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Not celtic like the soccer team, just celtic peoples club. big irish club in melbourne.
been there. there are lots of irish in australia
look at the plans for the biggest irish club in the world.
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Irish club planning to rise higher
THE 120-year old Celtic Club building on the corner of La Trobe and Queen streets in the city would be mostly demolished and replaced with a new club in a 40-storey-plus tower on the site in plans to be lodged with the Melbourne City Council within days.
The club would retain the first four floors of the development with remaining floors handed over to a developer for apartments on the 676 square-metre-site.
The current building, occupied by the club since 1959, does not have heritage protection and the site does not have a building height limit.
Celtic Club board member Francis Collins said the redevelopment was necessary to safeguard the future of Australia's oldest Irish club and an expression of interest would soon be released to market for the redevelopment.
The club has estimated a refurbishment of the current building could cost $4.8 million - which it cannot afford, and Mr Collins said members did not want to see the club of 800 members go the same way as the now defunct Naval and Military Club.
''The whole idea is to reinvigorate the club,'' he said. ''All clubs at the present time are struggling.''
He said club members supported the redevelopment and the facade of the current building would likely be retained.
''We've left it [the facade] in our plans; we certainly see it is of significance and we are happy to work around that,'' he said.
The redevelopment proposal includes a new cafe/bistro and entertainment area for club members and visitors and the retention of the club's Irish and Celtic culture and heritage.

Melbourne City Councillor and former Celtic Club president Brian Shanahan said he was ''generally supportive'' of the redevelopment plans.
Cr Shanahan, a life member of the club, said: ''The general proposal of using the air space to make the club viable I think is a good one.''
But not all have welcomed the proposal. Paul Roser, conservation manager with the National Trust, said the Celtic Club building should be heritage protected.
''We understand that clubs are struggling, the Naval and Military Club is gone and others are under pressure as well but we would have thought that a club that really trades on the heritage and culture of being Celtic and being Irish would have some sympathy for the building it has occupied for 50 years,'' he said.
Rupert Mann, from new CBD heritage protection group Melbourne Heritage Action, also attacked the plans.
''We are appalled at this crazy proposal for a 42-storey tower on the site of the Celtic Club, leaving only the facade. Melbourne's heritage buildings need to be protected, not destroyed. We urge the City of Melbourne to reject this plan in its entirety,'' he said.

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Melbourne Celtic Club
The Melbourne Celtic Club is a social organisation for Melburnians of Celtic (Scots, Welsh, but primarily Irish) ancestry or descent.

Overview of Melbourne Celtic Club
Founded on 26 September 1887, the Club was originally a semi-political association, supportive of Irish Home Rule amongst Melbourne's sizeable Irish population; and championing the rights of Irish Australians in an establishment otherwise dominated by the Anglo-Saxon, (largely Protestant) traditions of grate britain and its colonies.[2] Reflecting this political background, the original name of the club was the 'Celtic Home Rule Club'.[3] Though politicised, the club nevertheless sought to avoid domination by the clergy, both to avoid offending Protestant Irish members, as well as to preserve the institution as a celebrator of the secular life and culture of Melbourne.[4]

Formally opened in the new year of 1888, meetings of the club were originally held at the Imperial Hotel, before the first club rooms were opened at 82 Collins Street. This makes the club the second-oldest Irish organisation in Australia, after the Sydney-based Hibernian Society (founded 1880); and the popularity of such an association is evident from the membership increasing from only 70 to 400 within its first year.[5] The dominant figure of the club from its foundation to the early twentieth century, was Morgan Jaguers, who also headed Melbourne's Irish Land League, Irish National League, United Irish League and Melbourne Irish Pipers' Club.[6]

Disagreements within the club over political crises back in Ireland almost destroyed it as a viable entity. The Parnell divorce scandal (1890-1891) caused a split in the club between continued supporters of Parnell and his detractors.[7] Such was the turmoil wrought by the Parnell case, the club was refounded at the corner of Collins Street and Swanston Street, in 1891.[8]

Enduring such divisions (and threatened bankruptcy in 1900), the club remained the Australian centre for fundraising aimed at establishing a free Ireland, and a peak was reached in 1912 with the profitable departure dinner of Irish envoys W. A. Redmond and J. T. Donovan. The pair, feted by notaries from all over the country, left Australia after eighteen months with £30,000 to devote to the cause.[9]

Despite being a focal point for often overt sectarianism, the "Triumphant Years" of the club (and its associated St. Patrick's Day events) were between 1908-1913, during which attendances at marches rose to 100,000, and successive Governors-General also put in appearances at the club and festivities, before the First World War brought renewed tensions.[10]

With civil war threatening in Ireland in 1914, Club president Major T. M. McInerney took the remarkable step of cabling British Prime Minister Herbert Henry Asquith with an offer of assistance from the club.[11] The actual outbreak of war led to the club slowly losing touch with mainstream events, its chief members clinging to outmoded ideas about an autonomous Ireland within the United Kingdom, long after the rank and file had turned to republicanism.[12] The Easter Rising (1916) and Anglo-Irish War (1919-1921) reignited the divide between British loyalism and Irish nationalist feeling in Melbourne, resulting in the increased politicisation of St. Patrick's Day marches and events with which the club was associated. Archbishop Daniel Mannix's championing of the 'No Conscription' case caused tension within the Celtic Club; but the Irish Civil War (1922-192]) was most divisive, as politicised Irish Melburninans were forced to choose between the government of the new Irish Free State and the Irish Republican Army (headed by Eamon de Valera). The club practically split again in 1920 as a result of this, as well as the city council's attempts to ban the St. Patrick's Day celebrations.[13]

Thankfully, the politics of the old world soon receded from importance, particularly as the effects of bitter division and infighting on Melbourne's Irish community became apparent.[14] The Celtic Club was one of the few survivors from the plethora of Irish-Australian political and social organisations which existed before the turmoil of the First World War.[15] As the twentieth century progressed, the club began to assume its current form, as a purely social gathering place for "respectable gentlemen".[16] Irish politicians visiting the club (de Valera on 12 May 1948; Gerry Adams in the 1980s) have been treated more as celebrities than the leaders of a particular cause (though some club members are reputedly still ardent supporters of the Irish nationalist cause).[17]

Headquarters of Melbourne Celtic Club
Since 21 December 1959, the club's headquarters have been in Queen Street, near the corner of Lonsdale Street in Melbourne's Central Business District. This purchase - of Monahan's New Union Club Hotel - thus provided the club with a stable headquarters, ending the uncertainty which had plagued it since foundation.[18] The club is open to both members and non-members for meals and beverages, provided visitors reside outside a 5 kilometre radius of the HQ. Visitors residing within 5 km must apply for membership before enjoying the facilities.[19]

Live sports events (including Gaelic football and Hurling) are broadcast in the bar area of the club, and live music is also performed, in keeping with the club's heritage as a champion of Irish culture.

Histories of the club include: Hugh Buggy, The Celtic Club – A Brief History, 1947 & D. J. O'Hearn, Erin go bragh - advance Australia fair: a hundred years of growing, Melbourne: Celtic Club, 1990. Both record the key events in the club's history, and the role it played in helping Irish Melburnians to become accepted into mainstream Australian culture. Various histories of the Irish element in Victoria (and Australia more generally) make frequent reference to the importance of the club for maintaining a sense of 'Irishness' in Melbourne, as well as helping to foster a new identity. The club was also of sufficient cultural and historical significance for the city of Melbourne to be included in Andrew Brown-May and Shurlee Swain's groundbreaking Encyclopedia of Melbourne in 2005.

Members of Melbourne Celtic Club
Famous members of the Celtic Club include Victorian Premier Charles Gavan Duffy; Labor leader Arthur Augustus Calwell; Justice Redmond Barry and former North Melbourne Football Club chairman and media personality Ron Casey.

References Melbourne Celtic Club
1. ^ Richard Scully, "Celtic Club", in Andrew Brown-May and Shurlee Swain (eds), The Encyclopedia of Melbourne, Melbourne: Cambridge University Press, 2005, p.118.
2. ^ D. J. O'Hearn, Erin go bragh - Advance Australia Fair: a hundred years of growing, Melbourne: Celtic Club, 1990, p.6.
3. ^ Patrick O'Farrell, The Irish in Australia, Kensington: New South Wales University Press, 1987, p.176. Also see: Patrick Bishop, The Irish Empire: the Story of the Irish Abroad, London: Boxtree, 1999, p.146, for the Australian background to the Parnell Home Rule campaigns.
4. ^ Chris McConville, "Irish", in Andrew Brown-May and Shurlee Swain (eds), The Encyclopedia of Melbourne, Melbourne: Cambridge University Press, 2005, pp.370-371.
5. ^ O'Farrell, The Irish in Australia, p.176.
6. ^ O'Farrell, The Irish in Australia, pp.171-173, 257. A mason and enthusiast for Celtic art forms (then becoming popular in Ireland), Jaguers is also famous for the introduction of the traditional Celtic Cross to the Irish-Catholic areas of Melbourne's cemeteries: a monumental feature which largely dominated from the 1890s to the present day.
7. ^ O'Hearn, Erin go bragh, pp.24-25. Also see: O'Farrell, The Irish in Australia, p.234.
8. ^ O'Hearn, Erin go bragh, p.25.
9. ^ Walter A. Ebsworth, Archibishop Mannix, Armadale: H. H. Stephenson, 1977, p.125.
10. ^ O'Hearn, Erin go bragh, pp.39-41.
11. ^ O'Farrell, The Irish in Australia, p.281.
12. ^ O'Farrell, The Irish in Australia, p.281.
13. ^ O'Hearn, Erin go bragh, p.42; O'Farrell, The Irish in Australia, p.281.
14. ^ O'Farrell, The Irish in Australia, p.290.
15. ^ O'Farrell, The Irish in Australia, p.290.
16. ^ O'Hearn, Erin go bragh, p.32.
17. ^ O'Hearn, Erin go bragh, p.54.
18. ^ O'Hearn, Erin go bragh, p.55.
19. ^ See the club's website for more details:
celticclub.com.au/
References Melbourne Irish Celtic Club

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