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Terniog2
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Anti-Irish Racism in Scotland
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When it comes to being anti-Irish, No one compares to the bigot british Scot.
this song and sentiment was not just for no reason, it was because the scots in the brit army were among the worst wee coward bully boy semi literate thugs and typically low class rank bigots.
Celtic telling is as it really is.
Would this be tolerated in England.
“Why Don`t You Go Home?” Anti-Irish Racism in Scottish football.
The great famine which dated from 1845 to 1852 brought the movement of millions of Irish all around the world, with Glasgow as a particularly popular destination. The Irish community have long been treated with resentment in Scotland. Traditionally housing and jobs would state “no Irish need apply." Thankfully in most aspects of modern life this has moved on. Scottish football however is still rife with anti-Irishness - a form of racism that has long been widely accepted in Scottish football.
In the past there have been several clear examples of anti-Irish racism in Scottish football. Numerous attacks both verbal and physical on former Celtic captain and now manager Neil Lennon due to the fact he is a player particularly symbolic of Irish republicanism. Players such as Aidan McGeady and James McCarthy have been booed, jeered and abused up and down the country for their decision to play for the Republic of Ireland over Scotland. Perhaps most shocking in recent time has been “The Famine Song” where players or fans representing any form of Irishness are told to “Go Home”. Fans of Rangers football club have even gone to the lengths of creating banners telling people of Irish decent to return home. Banners stating slogans such as ‘This is our city, where in Ireland is Glasgow?’ Is this something that is being tackled by the Scottish Football Association? Dr Joseph Bradley a key professor in the Study of Irish ethnicity within Scotland would suggest no, stating that “There is little or no evidence that anti-Irishness is being challenged within Scottish football.” Perhaps more shocking is that he goes on to say that he thinks that the SFA fail to even recognise this as a problem “Anti-Irishness has first of all to be recognised if it is to be challenged in Scottish football”. This is a view shared by the Green Brigade, a group of Celtic Ultras who are widely known for their anti-fascist and anti-racism views. A key member of the Green Brigade states that “If the footballing authorities were serious about tackling anti-Irish racism in football then you would at least expected them to make a clear statement against it, and in support of Neil Lennon and others.”.
offended_bus_rangersThe S.F.A have been very active in there promotion of the Show Racism the Red Card campaign, which aims to end racism in Scottish football. However a fundamental flaw in the campaign is that fact that it is almost completely ignorant of the main type of racism within Scottish football. The campaign shows very little evidence of any engagement with the racism shown to the Irish community, and it seems that this is an issue that both the S.F.A and S.R.R.C would rather stay clear of. Show Racism the Red Card has done very little in the way of condemning ‘The Famine Song’.
Perhaps the most shocking example being on the 1st of November 2008 where Show Racism the Red Card campaigned at various football grounds around the country to raise awareness of racism in Scottish football, one of the grounds included that day was Fir Park home to Motherwell F.C. On this same day Republic of Ireland international James McCarthy was racially abused by the Motherwell fans who greeted his every touch of the ball with the chant “You're in the wrong F***ing country”. Following the incident there was no statement released by S.R.R.C condemning the Motherwell fans, which is hugely disappointing for an organisation aiming to end racism within football. This disappointed is shared by the members of the Green Brigade who regularly show their support for the Irish community in Scotland, stating that “there’s been no action taken on the Famine Song or other Anti-Irish incidents, and Show Racism the Red Card have been almost completely silent on the issues”. Clearly this is a huge problem within Scottish society and something that Show Racism the Red Card need to do a lot more in tackling.
The Scottish football media also play a large role in the acceptance of anti-Irishness in Scottish football. Dr Joe Bradley states that “Research shows that the Scottish media is a significant part of the problem of anti-Irishness within Scottish football and society more generally.” The Scottish media is known to be infamously backwards. A perfect example being Radio Clyde and Evening Times journalist Peter Martin changing his name from Peter McGuire. Is "McGuire" too Irish a name to be successful in the Scottish media? In November 2007 Sky Sports presenter and key member of the Scottish press Jim White was caught live on-air saying “Oh here we go again, the tottie famine”. This incident happened during a match between Celtic F.C and Manchester United while the Celtic fans sang Fields of Athenry, a song to commemorate the people that died in the great Irish famine. This incident was unsurprisingly picked up by none of the Scottish media in the following days. Following examples such as these it is hardly surprising that the Scottish media painted the vile and racist Famine Song as a “bit of banter”.
This is the, almost, unanimous view of the Famine song amongst the Scottish media, with the odd exception of a few journalists speaking out against the incident. Notably Graham Spiers of The Times who described the song as “deplorable and racist”, a view that most of his media counterparts disagreed with. The more common view being that of Bill Leckie The Scottish Sun`s sports editor, who stated in his paper on the 17th of September 2008 that “The famine song is a total wind-up. It is also not bigoted”. With the media treating a song that tells people of a certain ethnicity to “Go home” it is hardly surprising that anti-Irish racism is seen as acceptable within Scottish society. The Green Brigade provide some reasons for why they feel anti-Irish racism is so widely accepted by the Scottish media “In the case of anti-Irish racism they would rather pander to the bigots and paint the Famine Song as a bit of banter. I reckon a large part of this is because there is no recognition of any Irish community in Scotland and a widespread belief that anyone expressing Irishness should ‘go home’ or is ‘in the wrong f***ing country’”. Certainly it would seem this is an issue that the media would rather ignore or paint as a bit of fun rather that tackle the issue head on.
mcgeady_aberdeenAnti-Irishness is clearly a major problem in Scottish football. Unlike other organisations, football has yet to move into the modern era and something major has to be done to amend the situation. This lack of progression in football is something that the Green Brigade have highlighted “Going back just a couple of generations you would have struggled to find anyone from Scotland’s Irish community working in the financial services or law etc. but that’s all changed.” If these other sectors have changed then why has football not? Dr Joe Bradley feels that if any progress it to be made then the problem first has to be “recognised”, a view shared by the Green Brigade who feel that this lack of recognition means that the racial abuse is “effectively condoned by footballing figures, the authorities and the media”.
The S.F.A, Show Racism the Red Card and the media are all equally guilty in the acceptance of this deplorable racism that is rotting Scottish football. Scottish football needs to move into the modern era and remove itself from this disgusting racism. In order to do this the S.F.A need to send out a strong, clear message that this is NOT acceptable. Show Racism the Red Card need to also need to play an active role in educating people, especially young people that anti-Irish racism like all forms of racism is NOT acceptable. Finally the media need to take a lead from other professions and change the age old attitude of ‘No Irish Need Apply’, they also need to see that this IS racism just like any other form of racism and deal with it as such. The 'it’s just a bit of banter’ attitude within the media needs to change, like all other forms of racism it is NOT ‘banter’.
If Scottish football is to change and bring itself out of the narrow minded bigoted rut it is stuck in just now, these three key bodies need to stand up and face the problem that has scarred Scottish football for far too long. If they continue to accept this the problem will only get worse. More and more racist songs will appear and will be passed down to future generations and less and less talented Irish footballers will want to play in Scotland for fear of the abuse they will face. It is time to deal with this problem; it has been accepted by those that can make a change for far too long. Time to recognise this as the serious problem that it is.
Sean Roberts
celticunderground.net
The real world truth is, if the Irish must hate any race, it should be the Scots.
These are the ignorant British loyalists, decked out in their finest bri-nylon, playing the famine is over.
Their own ancestors would have suffered and died in the Irish famine they mock. The ignorance is unbelievable.
All done in the name of the Queen of England. The Queen of England must be proud of the sectarian Orange lodge and loyalist tartan gangs.The Queen of England must be proud of the UVF and UDA, never once has she condemned their actions, or disowned them. Hope you Irish in Ireland remember this fact, when the Queen of England tries to come calling.
Other posts around highlight the specific anti Irish racism of little scot brits
Always the Scots the worst shower of British scum in Ireland.
IRA Volunteer Tom Mc Donough was captured by the British Forces in Febuary 1921
“Nearing O Dea’s place we stopped and Murphy got off the car to go make enquires. He was not gone twenty yards when two lorries of R.I.C. and Black and Tans in charge of D.I. Hilliard and Sergeant Larkin arrived. We were unarmed at the time. ‘Tosser’ [John Joe Neylon] slipped off the car and started to walk up a by road, where before being captured, he threw the money into a drain. Murphy was also captured Sergeant Larkin came over to me where I was seated on the sidecar and asked me what I was doing. And I replied that I was just out for a drive. He then looked into the well of the car and saw the rate books. … The Police had meantime found the money, which Neylon had thrown into the drain. District inspector Hilliard announced that he had no intention of bringing us in and he proposed to shoot us there and then. He placed the three of us standing on the grass margin on one side of the road and fell in a firing party of six at the opposite side – two men aiming at each of us. Sergeant Larkin pleaded with him and, referring to Neylon, said he was no ordinary prisoner as his uncle was a general in the British Army. That was quite true for ‘Tosser’ was a nephew of General Sir Daniel Neylon who had been knighted after the 1914 – 18 Great war. This however seemed to cut no ice with Hilliard who said ‘Little good that would do you if this so-and-so got you from behind a ditch’. He pulled Larkin out of the way and ordered the party into the firing position. While we waited the order to fire, the thought entered my mind that I would not hear the shot that killed me. Then the unexpected happened. A woman cyclist who came along cycled between us and the firing party. Then she appeared suddenly to realise what was happening. She screamed, fell off the bicycle and became hysterical. That caused a diversion and we were ordered to get up into one of the lorries. We were brought to the R.I.C. barracks in Ennistymon where we were interrogated and given a few kicks and bashes. We were then removed to the military post in Ennistymon where we were interrogated in a gentlemanly manner by a British officer. A few days later we were removed to Ennis military barracks. There we were savagely attacked by a party of military led by a provost sergeant named Davis Finlay. Finlay was a native of Scotland and he had earned a notorious name for himself in Ennis for his cruelty and for the third degree methods he used on prisoners. When Finlay and his gang were finished with us I would say that Neylon was the worst hurt. He was covered with cuts and bruises; he was bleeding from the scalp and his fingers were damaged when, with his hands, he tried to ward off kicks.”
Bullets sent to Celtic player Paddy McCourt have been discovered in a package by mail staff.
It comes days after packets containing bullets were sent from the north of Ireland to Celtic manager Neil Lennon and player Niall McGinn.
The package addressed to 27-year-old McCourt was discovered by staff at a Royal Mail sorting office in the east end of Glasgow.
Police were immediately alerted and launched an investigation.
A Strathclyde Police spokeswoman said: 'We can confirm that we are currently investigation a suspicious package discovered at a Royal Mail sorting office in Cubie Street in Glasgow on Tuesday 11 January. Inquiries are ongoing.'
McCourt is from the north of Ireland and has played for his country.
It is believed the packet was addressed to him at Celtic Park.
Last week packages addressed to Lennon and McGinn were intercepted by staff at the Royal Mail sorting office in Mallusk, County Antrim.
The mail was bound for Celtic football club in Glasgow.
Police in the north of Ireland said officers were called to the Mallusk sorting office on January 5 after postal workers reported suspicions about two items of mail.
The items were removed for further examination, and police are investigating the incident.
Celtic winger McGinn is also a the north of Ireland international player.
Lennon, a former the north of Ireland international, has received death threats in the past.
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